Concentration Moon
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WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY Concentration Moon Notes and Comments |
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AMERICAN WAY How did it start? Thousands of creeps Killed in the park |
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SUDDENLY: DIE DIE COP KILL A CREEP! pow pow pow Tomorrow I get to do another Frank Zappa...Creation And the day after that... And the day after that... Also at the same time I get a work with Velvet Undeground |
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| As for Zappa vs. Reed, there is a long anti-Zappa diatribe from Reed sometime in the 60's quoted in the VU biography "Up-Tight." Apparently Zappa, in turn, made nasty comments about VU during some concerts from those days. Ironic that both Zappa and Reed were embraced as heroes by Vaclav Havel. | ||||||
| From LP liners notes | ||||||
| GARY KELLGREN (picture in badge on cut-out page), engineer for two months of basic sessions at MAYFAIR STUDIOS is the one doing all the creepy whispering. | ||||||
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| Spoken by recording engineer Gary Kellgren, and no doubt reflecting his true personal opinion. ("Kellgren, who cordially despises Zappa's music..." from Walley's book, paraphrased from memory) Included by Frank as being suitably irreverent. | ||||||
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| Another good quote in that book was about Lou Reed. I can't remember the source, but that person said that it was about a decade between good Lou Reed songs. | ||||||
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| 3-29 May (1966) | ||||||
| Double bill opening for Andy Warhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable with the Velvet Underground and Nico at The Trip, Los Angeles. The hometown crowd naturally cheered The Mothers and booed the Velvets whose sombre black New York outfits didn't fit in with the garish Californian Freaks. The Byrds, Jim Morrison (still at UCLA Film School at the time) Sonny & Cher and Mama Cass were all in the audience for the opening night. Lou Reed developed a seething hatred for Zappa: "He's probably the single most untalented person I've heard in my life. He's two-bit, pretentious, academic, and he can't play rock 'n' roll, because he's a loser. And that's why he dresses up funny. He's not happy with himself and I think he's right." [Reed] This is because Zappa would make fun of the Velvets as part of his stage rap... "These guys really suck!" | ||||||
| It's hard to imagine how the Velvets and The Mothers could have shared the bill for the whole month without violence occurring. It was perhaps fortunate that the Sheriff's office closed down the club on the third day of the engagement. However, the Warhol gang and The Mothers played one more gig together: | ||||||
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| Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco. The opening audition band (who didn't get paid) was The Jefferson Airplane. | ||||||
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| "I respected Frank Zappa, and I know that he respected me" And Frank's daughter Moon in her turn started the acceptence speech by this words ( johnscialli@delphi.com (John V. Scialli) transription ) "This is so nice. Thank you, Lou. I really appreciate that." | ||||||
| BTW, on a BTB I disc UNMITIGATED AUDACITY you could hear Reed's name in a list of then big rock starts | ||||||
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10. Harry, You're a Beast (00:53) You're phony on top You're phony underneath You lay in bed & grit your teeth David . . . Allan . . . Iggy . . . Lou . . . don't come in me, in me don't come in me, in me don't come in me, in me |
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| You devoted a lot of time to the FZ/Lou Reed controversy, but I don't think it's fair to end with this anecdote without including Gails commentary on the whole Hall of Fame thing. From her comments, and what I know about the industry, Lou and Moons on-stage comments were just show-business nicey-nicey between people that hate each other. | ||||||
| The choice of Lou to induct Frank was a great insult to the Zappa family. Gail said, among other thing "Lou never had a nice thing to say about Frank". | ||||||
| Also include that quite some time before the Hall of Fame induction Ahmet led audiences at Z shows in loud chants of "Fuck Lou Reed!" (At least he did this in New York, I can only presume he did so elsewhere - unless the fact that it was Reed's home town made it special). | ||||||
| Unfortunately, I don't have the text of the Gail quotes, but I suspect they are available somewhere. Feel free to include any of these comments in upcoming revisions of this Notes & Comments. | ||||||
| It seems like a lot of space to devote to the FZ/LR stuff, but this might be the best place to include it, if it isn't documented elsewhere. | ||||||
| Thank you, Cliff, for a great suggestion. Here is it straight from our fabulous Dr. John. | ||||||
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AMERICAN WAY Threatened by US |
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Drag a few creeps Away in a bus |
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| Getting back to the original thread - I think the songs in question are referring to "creeps" rather than "freaks" (e.g. "Cop kill a creep - pow pow pow"). I think this sort of makes sense, in that "freaks" seems to encompass more sociological ground than "creeps," the latter referring more to appearance than other matters - and "creeps" being a group that could be victimized on more superficial grounds by those not interested in looking further. | ||||||
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