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Mud Sh-sh-shark
THE MUD SHARK DANCING LESSON!
My mind drifts back to a meeting, a chance meeting
in the Chicago O'Hare Airport
where the members of the Vanilla Fudge
told Don Preston about a home movie they made
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From: Vladimir Sovetov <sova@kpbank.ru>
Below is a message I received one day, it's obviously a reaction of a former
Vanilla Fudge bass guitar player Tim Bogert to what he once read about event
in question in aff-z FAQ.
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BTW, unfortunately despite all my efforts I wasn't able to contact
original author for detailed interview, Alas:-((
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From:
realname=Tim Bogert/Vanilla Fudge band member
emailaddress=ejscully@adnetsol.com
message=The Mudshark Dance:
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Regarding the Fish Dance, it was originally done on her back. I remember
she was laying down because she was sucking on Clive while I was kneeling
next to him.
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at the Edgewater Inn with a Mud Shark.
I'm gonna tell you, this dance, the Mud Shark,
is sweeping the ocean!...
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From: sshupe@alesis1.usa.com
I don't know if there is a dance or not, but the mud shark
is about a band ( i think vanilla fudge, really) who caught
a fish at the edgewater inn in seatlle, and procedded to
plook some groupie with it. i think this is described in
the real fz book. the story was told to a member other than
frank, but supposedly the groupie person enjoyed it
vigorously, identified with it strenuously, got up, dressed
herself, and then thanked the band persons very much for
doing this to her, and left.
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The interview with the guy at the edgewater, on playground
psychotics, obviously took place after frank heard the
story. frank seems to be hinting at what a person could do
with a fish that they had caught the whole time. i also
remember flo and eddie referring to the "Dance that would be
sweeping the nation" (and the nation needs a good sweeping).
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From: cate@brahms.udel.edu (Catherine M Leonard)
I have a recording of Frank describing the Mudshark Dance to the audience.
You open your legs, clasp your hands together & s q u a t ! To do it in
4/4 time, step left, step right, squat, rest. All the time you should have
your hands together down by the knees. I'll have to check for the date, etc.
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From: rich.gregory@suzys.altcit.eskimo.com (Rich Gregory)
I have a bootleg where FZ coaches the audience on how to
do this dance. He's got 'em all lined up standing, no, squatting in their
seats w/ their hands between their legs. One hand between the legs to the
person behind you, the other hand to the person in front of you (who's hand
is between his leg back to you). The idea is to sort of duck walk & in
unison with the music SQUAT at the appropriate time with everyone else.
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From: linetramp@delphi.com
Now that you mention it, I do remember Phlo & Eddie and several other
bandmembers attempting this maneuver while Frank narrated from the side.
It was a nice break from Nixon, Vietnam and Kent State. It was just plain
idiotic looking! I REALLY wish I had a video tape of that show! Zappa
showed us all that you could still have fun while surrounded by a world full
of "plastic people".
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CC
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From: ralf@ark.btbg.sub.de (Ralf W. Stephan)
Well, Frank says on 'Bebop Tango'(Roxy) that the BT will 'sweep/t(?)
the ocean, right after the Mudshark did'.
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From: cantrell@ssd.intel.com (Jay Cantrell)
Also, on PlaygroundPsychotics, Frank interviews the desk
manager at the Mudshark Hotel....Well, since my baby left me,
I've found a new place to dwell, It makes a sort of Puget Sound...
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From: chris@transdata.co.nz (Chris Grace)
On an (almost) related subject, the Vanilla Fudge (of Edgewater Inn fame)
had an album called 'Rock and Roll' released sometime around 1968. One of
the tracks on the album is called 'The spell that comes after'. The
writer of this song is cited as 'Calvin Schenkel'. Bearing in mind the
Mudshark episode, I wonder if it is the same Cal Schenkel? It's not a
very common name....
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From: John Henley <jhenley@mail.utexas.edu>
As I posted on affz a couple of weeks ago, Playground Psychotics contains
an interview by Frank of the manager of the Edgewater Inn. I consider this
little cut to be essential to CC. The manager denies ever seeing any
visual evidence of sexual activity with any of the fish that people catch
from their balconies, though there's plenty of evidence that they catch the
fish and just leave them to rot in the bathtub or on the floor. He also
points out that a mudshark has sandy skin, which would make for an
unpleasant encounter.
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From: chulrich@interchange.ubc.ca (Charles Ulrich)
FZ says it's also known as a dogfish. So he's probably talking about the
spiny dogfish (Squalus acanthias Linnaeus), which is a small shark whose
skin is rough because it has small spiny scales on it.
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From: rmaurer@pinc.com (Rolf Maurer)
Right-O. Dogfish is what we call our local low-rent sharks up here off
the upper left hand edge of North America. They can grow to 3-4 feet
and don't scare anything bigger than krill. Arf! Arf! Some people,
including the Fudge and the Mothers, prefer to refer to them as
mudsharks -- seems sexier and more dangerous than "dogfish", I
suppose.
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Dog -- fish fish fish ...
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If you want so more, here is some more
Mudshark legend of Vanilla/Zeppeiln 1969 tour
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BTW:-)))
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From: "L. Hirsch" <lverre@u.washington.edu>
I just thought I'd post a bit about the Edgewater in case anyone's
interested. If you come to Seattle, you just might want to stay there
for the sole novelty of the whole mudshark experience. BUT, you should
all be aware that it's a pretty cheezy hotel. It was recently renovated,
so it looks a little prettier, but it's still pretty close to a Holiday
Inn experience. Might I suggest going to the top of some building in town
.. preferably not the Space Needle ($6.50 a pop) .. to simply look at the
giant "E" that sits atop the inn.
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Apparently it actually used to be a nice hotel. My grandparents were
very fond of staying there in the 60's. The Beatles stayed there during
their first Seattle visit. As far as I know, you can still fish from
your window.
Not too exciting .. but there ya go. Enjoy!
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Any proposal? I'd like to hear!